diff --git a/emigui/src/containers/frame.rs b/emigui/src/containers/frame.rs
index 93ec5cc7..158e5289 100644
--- a/emigui/src/containers/frame.rs
+++ b/emigui/src/containers/frame.rs
@@ -4,20 +4,40 @@ use crate::*;
 
 #[derive(Clone, Debug, Default)]
 pub struct Frame {
-    pub margin: Option<Vec2>,
+    pub margin: Vec2,
+    pub corner_radius: f32,
+    pub fill_color: Option<Color>,
+    pub outline: Option<Outline>,
 }
 
 impl Frame {
-    pub fn margin(mut self, margin: Vec2) -> Self {
-        self.margin = Some(margin);
-        self
+    pub fn window(style: &Style) -> Self {
+        Self {
+            margin: style.window_padding,
+            corner_radius: style.window.corner_radius,
+            fill_color: Some(style.background_fill_color()),
+            outline: Some(Outline::new(1.0, color::WHITE)),
+        }
+    }
+
+    pub fn menu(style: &Style) -> Self {
+        Self {
+            margin: Vec2::splat(1.0),
+            corner_radius: 2.0,
+            fill_color: Some(style.background_fill_color()),
+            outline: Some(Outline::new(1.0, color::white(128))),
+        }
     }
 }
 
 impl Frame {
     pub fn show(self, ui: &mut Ui, add_contents: impl FnOnce(&mut Ui)) {
-        let style = ui.style();
-        let margin = self.margin.unwrap_or_default();
+        let Frame {
+            margin,
+            corner_radius,
+            fill_color,
+            outline,
+        } = self;
 
         let outer_pos = ui.cursor();
         let inner_rect =
@@ -32,14 +52,12 @@ impl Frame {
 
         let outer_rect = Rect::from_min_size(outer_pos, margin + inner_size + margin);
 
-        let corner_radius = style.window.corner_radius;
-        let fill_color = style.background_fill_color();
         ui.insert_paint_cmd(
             where_to_put_background,
             PaintCmd::Rect {
                 corner_radius,
-                fill_color: Some(fill_color),
-                outline: Some(Outline::new(1.0, color::WHITE)),
+                fill_color,
+                outline,
                 rect: outer_rect,
             },
         );
diff --git a/emigui/src/containers/window.rs b/emigui/src/containers/window.rs
index 58d3f7e9..c3e5e86d 100644
--- a/emigui/src/containers/window.rs
+++ b/emigui/src/containers/window.rs
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@ use super::*;
 pub struct Window {
     pub title_label: Label,
     pub floating: Floating,
-    pub frame: Frame,
+    pub frame: Option<Frame>,
     pub resize: Resize,
     pub scroll: ScrollArea,
 }
@@ -24,7 +24,7 @@ impl Window {
         Self {
             title_label,
             floating,
-            frame: Frame::default(),
+            frame: None,
             resize: Resize::default()
                 .handle_offset(Vec2::splat(4.0))
                 .auto_shrink_width(true)
@@ -85,15 +85,15 @@ impl Window {
 }
 
 impl Window {
-    pub fn show(self, ctx: &Arc<Context>, add_contents: impl FnOnce(&mut Ui)) {
+    pub fn show(self, ctx: &Arc<Context>, add_contents: impl FnOnce(&mut Ui)) -> InteractInfo {
         let Window {
             title_label,
             floating,
-            mut frame,
+            frame,
             resize,
             scroll,
         } = self;
-        frame.margin = Some(frame.margin.unwrap_or_else(|| ctx.style().window_padding));
+        let frame = frame.unwrap_or_else(|| Frame::window(&ctx.style()));
 
         // TODO: easier way to compose these
         floating.show(ctx, |ui| {
@@ -101,7 +101,7 @@ impl Window {
                 resize.show(ui, |ui| {
                     ui.add(title_label);
                     ui.add(Separator::new().line_width(1.0)); // TODO: nicer way to split window title from contents
-                    scroll.show(ui, |ui| add_contents(ui))
+                    scroll.show(ui, add_contents)
                 })
             })
         })